arrakis
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Post by arrakis on May 6, 2009 14:00:52 GMT -5
Whisper, using Ripstop Nylon, which, if I recall correctly, has no significant stretch in any direction, do you not run into stiffening/ripping problems due to the hyper-elastic nature of the PVC-NBR foam? I was considering a similar thing to your nylon "taping", but with 4-way stretch fabric DAPed over the 3/4" of Marine Foam. Probably without the bluefoam over it, but with 3 layers of bluefoam underneath of it.
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Post by solusar on May 6, 2009 16:39:22 GMT -5
That's what I did, but it didn't pass for Dominion practice. Now for the modifications. *sigh*
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Post by shyrkien on May 7, 2009 0:46:11 GMT -5
I've been working on it, decided to use the two-layer method. I'll post pics of it once I get the second and third layer on. I have been using what I think is the car sponge mentioned earlier, though I cannot be sure as it was given to me by another member of VVS and I neglected to ask what the hell it is. Worst case, I should end up with a perfectly legal blue. I'll be sure to hit you up for more advice at practice, after I stab you with it Buddha.
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Whisper MoonSon
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Post by Whisper MoonSon on May 7, 2009 19:44:45 GMT -5
Whisper, using Ripstop Nylon, which, if I recall correctly, has no significant stretch in any direction, do you not run into stiffening/ripping problems due to the hyper-elastic nature of the PVC-NBR foam? I was considering a similar thing to your nylon "taping", but with 4-way stretch fabric DAPed over the 3/4" of Marine Foam. Probably without the bluefoam over it, but with 3 layers of bluefoam underneath of it. I do get a bit of stiffening, but no tearing. I mitigate the stiffening by using the ripstop underneath the last layer of foam when it's on the striking surface. On the flat, it's not really that big of a deal. The weapon still hits fine either striking or thrusting, and it holds up pretty well. Got about a year of decent use out of each of my swords before needing to rebuild/repair. That said, you could probably get similar results with broadcloth. May not be as strong (it'll be strong enough), but it'll be a bit more flexible. BTW, I recommend less blue foam under the marine foam and one layer over it. I think it'll be less likely to fold over that way, especially if you're using the stretchy fabric. YMMV.
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Post by arrakis on May 8, 2009 11:17:09 GMT -5
Thanks. I'll likely be stripping the third blue layer across the tip from a sword in the near future and adding 3/4" of marine with a hockey tape taping method (if I get some more hockey tape soon, that is). I'll let y'all know how it goes.
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Post by shyrkien on May 9, 2009 13:09:31 GMT -5
okay, I just gone done, two hours before practice. I'll add another post later to let you know if it passed or not. Instead of burning forum bandwidth on pics, I opted to just post the photobucket album in which the pictures reside: s6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/Ninyo/Dag%20stuff/Let me know your thoughts, there is about 4.4 ozs of counterweight in the pommel, compliments of several stacks of pennies.
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Post by shyrkien on May 11, 2009 10:42:55 GMT -5
stab tip wasn't quite soft enough, but I still have a perfectly good blue. And blue choppy is better than green stabby anyways so I am pleased. Thanks again to everyone who replied.
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Post by Buddha on May 11, 2009 11:20:17 GMT -5
We are trying to get together a barbeque/construction day in a few weeks. Also this friday, after I finish my last final, I'll have some free time. If you'll be free that day pm me your number and we'll meet up and have an afternoon of constructing weapons of mass thumpage. ;D
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arrakis
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Post by arrakis on May 11, 2009 18:54:37 GMT -5
shyrkien: Use a better open cell or use ensolite, for that construction method.
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Post by shyrkien on May 11, 2009 22:21:17 GMT -5
Budha- my friday is tied up in a 'the wife and me' day, so I don't think I'll have time for it then, but if you let me know what your schedule is like I can find a way to fit mine to it on some day.
Arrakis- I'll be sure to do so on my next attempt. The open cell was fluffy, just not fluffy enough to have used as little as I did. Lessons learned though.
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Post by igitgreen on May 12, 2009 9:34:54 GMT -5
hummm talk to me one of these weekends and ill show you some better open cell i have around
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Post by jackyl on May 30, 2009 2:24:22 GMT -5
whisper am make legal stabby for dag but the main reason for most stabbys not common in dag is that the passing construction will not last long before theblue layer fails
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Whisper MoonSon
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Post by Whisper MoonSon on May 30, 2009 21:57:27 GMT -5
And that's why I use the fabric over the marine foam and under the last blue foam layer. It really helps. When you've been playing for 30 years, you learn a few tricks. I like to share mine, especially when it means more greens on the field. I like stabbies, and I want to see more of them. Another trick is not to overpad the tip. One layer of blue foam, 1.5" of marine foam, fabric, then another layer of blue foam. That's all you need. Any more, and it'll tend to fold over. Much less, and it'll hit too hard. The final trick is to make the blade at least 2" flat-to-flat. Again, that keeps the tip from folding. If you don't like the fat edge, taper it down. But the center should be at least 2" thick.
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Post by solusar on May 30, 2009 22:08:38 GMT -5
From end of core to tip of blade, how big are your tips Whisper?
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Post by jackyl on May 31, 2009 2:25:52 GMT -5
2 in wide strike blade am too large for me but the stabby foam i use is missile packing foam a 2 in block over 2 layers blue and a final blue layer over that seems sufficient for my area but i dont think its a long lasting tip
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